Sunday, July 22, 2007

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Well it's been a while since I've posted, but nothing's really caught my eye until this. I've worked in the public service for roughly two and a half years now, and I quite often think of how there are people who come from disadvantaged backgrounds who could do an equal or superior job to some of the people I've encountered on the job, but due to life circumstances, societal barriers, or lack of belief they haven't been able to pursue such opportunities.

Then reading this story about some applicant being referred to as "ghetto dude" just underscores my perspective. First of all, if this so called ghetto dude were employed in a similar position as the offender, I'm quite sure he would have had the common sense and proffesionalism to appropriately discuss a job candidate and not prejudge someone in a way that would likely minimize that individual's chance of success. I can't say the same for Ms. Siu.

Another thing that irked me about this story is John Tory's ridiculous suggestion that McGuinty should apologize. Why, so that this story can be pinned to McgGuinty when it's not a political issue? The issue here has nothing to do with the administration from the top. This is more about societal attitudes. This could have, and likely has, happened in the private sector, but thankfully this time it occurred in the public sector where these kinds of attitudes can be exposed a bit more easily. A McGuinty apology is not going to make anything better, rather it would be almost a one off answer withouth tackling the actual problem that does exist. In fact, it would be patronizing.

Let's hope there's a lesson learned here. And no, I'm not referring to email etiquette. While an overnight improvement is naive, at least there should be some kind of introspection on how people approach candidates when it comes to diversity in the job market. Not everyone comes from Trinity College, and not everyone needs to.

This incident saddens me because I believe in Canada very much, but in a sense, I feel that Canadians are naively content. We preach multiculturalism and acceptance, but too this diversity and acceptance is merely superficial. Don't get me wrong, there's nowhere else I'd rather live, but I think Canadians need to be more honest with each other about some attitudes. Otherwise, Canada will always be great, with an asterisk.

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Salut! You make the statement "...I'm quite sure [Mr. Reid] would have had the common sense and proffesionalism [sic] to appropriately discuss a job candidate and not prejudge someone in a way that would likely minimize their change [sic? chance?] of success".

I do not know if you know Evon Reid personally but even if you do, I seriously doubt that you can know him so well as to reliably predict all the silly things he may or may not say or do when he believes no-one outside his circle of friends, family, or those who know him well, can hear him. So it is unclear on what basis you are so "sure" that he would never act in an unprofessional manner.

That being said, the actions of Ms. Siu were clearly unprofessional and, because of this, significant sanctions should result, up to and including termination of her employment. Whether or not she is racist is another issue, but her actions leave little doubt that she is prone to making silly yet devastating judgments about individuals she barely knows. Such a state of mind could prove to be a dangerous tool in the hands of someone who wields the power she does, for, at the very least, she gets to decide whether or not those in charge will ever see his application and under what circumstances.

Finally, I hope Mr. Reid realizes that the idea that “the actions of one person cannot necessarily be generalized across a group” is an idea that goes both ways. Therefore, merely applying for a job is no guarantee that you will get it, and, not getting a job should not automatically lead one to conclude that racism was the cause. The suggestion that it was his mother’s Caribbean accent heard on an answering machine was the reason why he was denied a call back is at best premature, and at worst offensive. I can understand that he was angry (as I would be after going through his ordeal) but his actions tread dangerously close self-pity and self victimization. By the way, as a black man, I am more than well aware of the various forms of racism (whether subtle or not) that exist in this great nation. However, let us not play the victim by levelling accusations whenever things do not go our way. There are more than enough clear cut cases of racism that we could highlight, there is no need manufacture more.

Thank You.

m5slib said...

Well where do we start.. well first you are right, I don't know Mr. Reid at all even though I do share his last name, so I couldn't be sure how he would act, but the point I was trying to get across is that anyone with any kind of professional judgment wouldn't do something so stupid. end of story. Still I can't agree that this is self victimization. If he didn't get the job fairly, then there would be no argument, but the problem is that he was prejudged by someone involved in the job process. I don't see how that is self victimization when someone else is already limiting you based on their own assumptions. From one black man to another, not because you're black, it doesn't make your disagreement more valid. Yes, I totally agree that it's a very careful thing not to cry wolf, and as you said there are various forms of racism that are still prevalent. However, what I think is critical is that when the time calls, we have to confront those types of racism or else things might never change. I don't know about you, but when it's blatanly done in a public office, I think it's time for some examination.

Horus said...

We are in agreement. I certainly did not mention that I was black in order to guarantee the validity of my position. I mentioned it only to signal that as a black person I have experienced much of the same problems as Mr. Reid but, unless it was clear that racism was a reason, I wouldn’t suggest that I failed to land a job because they heard my Jamaican mother speaking with an accent. That was the victimization to which I was alluding. I seriously doubt that if you were in a position to hire someone, your criteria would not include how thick the applicant’s mother's accent is. I would not want to be accused of that and I would only level such an accusation with reasonable evidence for my position and no reasonable evidence against it.

In short, without proper evidence I do not think it’s fair to label others as racist. There was certainly evidence for Ms. Siu’s prejudism, but not enough evidence to suggest that it was sanctioned by the whole office. Still, even though it may no seem like it, I agree with all of what you said in your reply. Our only disagreement can be summed up where you said, “If he didn't get the job fairly, then there would be no argument, but the problem is that he was prejudged by someone involved in the job process.” Yes, he was clearly negatively prejudged by someone in the job process, but there was no evidence that this was why he did not get the job. No one owes me or anyone else a job unless we have some pre-arranged agreement. What we are owed is fair and respectable treatment. Mr Reid was denied this by Ms Siu; for that her employment should be terminated. There is not enough evidence, however, to impugn the whole office. Therefore, while Mr Reid has good reason to raise a stink and shine the light on the atrocious behaviour of Ms. Siu, in my opinion, it decays into self-pity and self-victimization when he starts to create reasons like his mother’s accent in order to explain why others decided not to employ him.

Sorry for the longs posts, I'm simply trying to be clear. Thanks.

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